discussion on the notropic phenibut

Be very careful with this substance

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    Placebo
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    You are only supposed to use 500mg-2 grams twice a week at most. I found that doing it this way gave me 2 good days of the week then 5 bad ones.

    So I either had to use it everyday or not at all. I of course decided to be an everyday user. It wasn’t so much a high I was after with this substance.

    It had so many benefits for me. Huge anxiety and depression relief, it made me very social, the nootropic benefits made it to where I could excel much easier at work. It unlocked intellect that was always there but overtaken by constant depression and anxiety which greatly hinders your ability to articulate.

    Phenibut for me, was literally a miracle substance for improving my life. Unfortunately, tolerance increases fast and I got all the way up to 25 grams a day which is unheard of.

    I am now tapering and down to 19 grams.Every dose drop brings soul crushing depression,
    anxiety,irritability and many physical symptoms. Cold turkeying a dose like this, or even 5-8 grams for that matter can bring on delirium or even full blown psychosis.

    I truly wish that this substance which makes every aspect of my life worth living wasn’t addictive and didn’t build tolerance like an ssri.
    This is the one substance that I actually didn’t use for a high but as a medicine.

    Feel free to ask me any questions guys. I wish everyone recovery and happiness

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    Heimrikr
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    Well if you were taking 25 damn grams of it I’d say you certainly have a problem, and not using it responsibly and therapeutically.

    If you were building a quick tolerance, you needed to just simply cycle it on and off to hinder the tolerance progression. It may have sucked but you can’t just continue to increase your doses until your body is more Phenibut than human.

    I’ve just recently heard of people abusing Gabapentoid drugs. Before it never occurred to me that people would abuse such mild substances.

    I was aware that a deep physical and mental dependence occurs on drugs like Phenibut or brands like Lyrica. But even having tried Pregabalin and Gabapentin myself, I never would have dreamed people would abuse it because most users were reporting mild subtle to zero effects and from my own experience, Gabapentoids had ZERO recreational value.

    I think drugs like SSRI, SNRI, and similar medications are too freely handed out. And it’s disturbing that the “experts” or what I would assume to be as pharmacologists, Don’t truly understand or know even how these drugs work. And they openly admit this!! Which is seriously shocking because if we don’t know how exactly these medications work, how can we confidently prescribe them to people and remotely assume they’ll be effective or safe?

    I think they’re thrown at people that are perfectly healthy but just not good at handling stress or pressure. And these substances mess with our very delicate neurochemistry. Chemicals that are vital to our survival like Serotonin. Too much or too little can have serious consequences or result in heart failure or hyperthermia.

    People are so fixated on the so called Meth and Opioid problems but I think the real epidemic is the Monoamine Inhibitor drug crisis.

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